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74530 No. 74530 ID: d2caef Stickied hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Post your guns (and yours alone!).

Rules: No post without picture.
Bonus credit: Quality photography is highly appreciated.

Here's my newly acquired Smith & Wesson Model 29 (no dash).
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>> No. 103848 ID: ba44b3
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I bought a PSA 9mm lower, gotta touch up the color fill.
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>>103848
I may take a few more pics of it after shooting today in more detail


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104025 No. 104025 ID: 56190f hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
US M2 Carbine, an assault rifle, submachinegun or PDW?
The .30 Carbine metric dimensions are 7.62x33mm and that looks similar to the Sturmgewehr 44's 8mm Kurz' 7.92x33mm round, but the .30 Carbine has a thin case more akin to a pistol cartridge, not a fat bottlenecked assault rifle case like the 8mmK. The .30 Carbine round is more comparable to the .357 Magnum (9x33mmR) pistol cartridge in performance.
A standard .30 Carbine ball bullet weighs 110 grains (7.1 g); a complete loaded round weighs 195 grains (12.6 g) and has a muzzle velocity of 1,990 ft/s (610 m/s), giving it 967 ft·lbf (1,311 joules) of energy when fired from the M1 Carbine's 18" barrel. A .357 Magnum cartridge fired from an 18" rifle barrel, which can have a muzzle velocity range from about 1,718–2,092 ft/s (524–638 m/s) with energies at 720–1,215 ft·lbf (976–1,647 J) for a 110 gr (7.1 g) bullet at the low end and a 125 gr (8.1 g) bullet on the high end. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30_Carbine
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>> No. 104033 ID: 3e843b
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I'd say its probably closest to a PDW just going by its cartridge. The cartride is not a bottlenecked rifle cartridge nor is it really a standard pistol cartridge. It seems more intermediate between an intermediate rifle round and a pistol round.

Its role though is more simple, its served pretty much as a bog standard carbine much like how a CAR-15 was or a modern M4 before it became more or less a standard long arm. A shorter rifle used by NCOs, special troops, vehicle crews, and rear line personnel.

There seems to be some overlap between the roles of carbines, PDWs, and submachine guns hence there is such confusion I think.
>> No. 104034 ID: 56190f
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In 1963, a guy named Melvin M. Johnson made a conversion of the M1 carbine, where he necked-down the .30 Carbine to .22 (5.7mm) and called it the .22 Spitfire (also known as 5.7mm Johnson or MMJ 5.7mm Johnson) and sold it as a varmint gun. It was also advertised as a survival rifle for use in jungles or other remote areas, but the military was not interested.

- US M1 Carbine in Melvin Johnson Jr's 5.7mm (.223) Spitfire cartridge.
>> No. 104035 ID: 794d7b
>>104031
I've always wondered where one gets 5.8mm Chinese ammo in the West. To my knowledge it's not really formally exported.
>> No. 104040 ID: e9af5c
How long has the term PDW been around?
>> No. 104041 ID: 56190f
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>>104040
I think the PDW term is recent, but the concept for having a compact but powerful defensive weapon that can be carried by troops behind the front line such as military engineers, drivers, artillery crews or signallers. These soldiers may be at risk of encountering the enemy, but rarely enough that a long-barrel weapon would be an unnecessary burden during their normal duties. Something between a submachine gun and a rifle.


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104036 No. 104036 ID: 815268 hide watch quickreply [Reply]
Haters gonna hate
>> No. 104037 ID: 6b56b6
Not a Remington so no hate from me.

I kinda want to shoot a 3 gun match with one of those while wearing a leather jacket and a pair of gargoyles.
>> No. 104038 ID: 813f6b
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How's the fit & finish? I'm not a big fan of Mossberg/Maverick because of it.
Otherwise, they obviously work well.

Too bad that SBS'ing them costs so much money. I really wanted to make a SBS Ithaca M37, but that turned out to be a pain in the ass to accomplish.

Trying to get my hands on a new full length (18.5" or 20") Benelli M3 Tactical now.
>> No. 104039 ID: 815268
>>104038
It's good, especially for a $400 shotgun. Good, even parkerizing. The slide is a little rattley, but the action locks up right.

The only real negatives are that the trigger guard is some kind of plastic or polymer, and there doesn't seem to be a good way to attach a light without spending $300+ on a Surefire slide.


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98094 No. 98094 ID: a4a9ab hide watch quickreply [Reply] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Another general weapons thread.
Previous one: http://www.operatorchan.org/k/res/90125.html
STI Target Master
The Target Master is built on STI’s 1911 Government-length frame with 30 lpi checkering on the front strap. The safety controls are STI ambidextrous thumb safeties and STI high rise, knuckle-relief beavertail grip safety. The 6″ slide features a lowered and flared ejection port, tri-level adjustable sights, and STI front and rear cocking serrations. The barrel is a 6.0″, fully-supported and ramped bull barrel. The Target Master comes standard with a STI two-piece steel guide rod, Commander-style hammer and patented STI Int’l trigger system. The STI Target Master ships with one 1911 Magazine. http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/tag/glock/
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>> No. 104018 ID: 56190f
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World War II U.S. Remington Model 1903-A4 Bolt Action Sniper Rifle with Scope and Sling
Estimated Price: $2,500 - $3,750
This is a late World War II production US Army contract Remington Model 1903A4 sniper rifle manufactured in the second block of serial numbers. The barrel is marked "R A/Ordnance Bomb/12-43," and the receiver has standard markings correctly offset on the left. Fitted with the correct square end "Redfield" marked scope base with the shims under the front of the base with a commercial Lyman Alaskan rifle scope with serial number "9603". The scope that has been fitted with a set of blue scope rings and has a non-original front sunshade. Correct blued blued components; barrel bands, triggerguard and complete bolt assembly with all parts correctly stamped with a "R". The bolt is the correct 1903A4 Remington sniper pattern also marked with a "R" under the handle. Correct late war Keystone manufactured fat-grip "C" stock with two reinforcing bolts and a capital "K" stamped in the cutoff. The stock is fitted with an original WWII GI web sling. The sling is ink marked "S.M. CO./1944."
>> No. 104019 ID: 56190f
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U.S. Remington Arms Model 1903A4 Bolt Action Sniper Rifle with M84 Scope
Estimated Price: $2,250 - $3,500
Manufactured in 1943. The barrel is marked "R.A./flaming bomb/9-43" and the front sight is correctly absent. The receiver is correctly marked in two blocks with: "U.S./REMINGTON/MODEL 03-A3" on the left side and the serial number "Z4001598" on the right. The rifle has the correct 1903A4 sniper rifle bolt with the "R" mark on the underside of the bolt handle. A parkerized Redfield scope base is installed on the receiver and has been fitted with a blue M84 rifle scope that is fitted with a rubber eyecup and extending sun shield. The scope itself is a correct GI version marked "TELESCOPE/M84/SERIAL NO. 37218". It is fitted with the correct Remington manufactured stamped trigger guard and barrel bands. The rifle is fitted with a late production fat grip "C" stock that has been stamped with a partially boxed "S.A./O" Springfield Armory inspection mark. It is also been double struck with a circled "P" proof in the grip area. In front of the trigger guard it has also been stamped with the various sub-inspector proofs from the Remington factory. The Remington stamped steel buttplate is fitted with a trap door and it includes a plastic oiler. Includes a green canvas web sling.
>> No. 104020 ID: 56190f
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U.S. Remington Model 1903A3 Bolt Action Sniper Rifle with Scope
Estimated Price: $1,100 - $1,600
Barrel marked "S.C./flaming bomb/1-44". With one-piece Redfield scope base, Weaver M84 scope, and canvas sling.
>> No. 104022 ID: 56190f
  >>103988
Carl Gustav m/42: A 20mm Recoilless Antitank Rifle https://youtu.be/lHQfQPSlSHg
The Swedish Pansarvärnsgevär fm/42 made by the Carl Gustav company was an interesting early hybrid antitank weapon - a recoilless rifle firing solid armor-piercing projectiles. It used a 20x180mm case, propelling the 108g (1650gr) bullet at 950 m/s (3150 fps). This was capable of perforating 40mm of perpendicular armor plate at 100m (a high explosive projectile was also made). This was on the high end of armor penetration for anti-tank rifles, and the m/42 was able to do this with a weapon weighing just 11.7kg (25 lb) - less than a quarter of a comparable 20mm conventional rifle.

This was possible because of its recoilless design - upon firing, the rear end of the cartridge case would blow out and vent out the back of the weapon, instead of being firmly sealed like a conventional rifle. This created a counter balancing recoil impulse which prevented the gun and shooter from having to absorb the full recoil energy produced by a heavy bullet launching off at high velocity. The tradeoff was that much of the potential energy of firing was wasted venting out the back instead of pushing the bullet forward, which is why the cartridge case was so oversized.

About a thousand of the guns were made by the end of World War 2, at which time even it had been made quite thoroughly obsolete by the rapidly increasing thickness of tank armor. It would, however, be the stepping-stone to the m/48 Carl Gustav 84mm recoilless rifle, which used a shaped charge warhead to perforate armor with a stream of molten melt instead of relying on velocity of a hardened projectile.
>> No. 104023 ID: 56190f
  Carl Gustav 20mm recoilless rifle at O.F.A.S.T.S. 2010 https://youtu.be/dUoBb3h9HWA


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103744 No. 103744 ID: 813f6b hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
So, I recently went to visit the Waterloo Memorial 1815 museum. Thought I'd post some pics.

The Waterloo 1815 museum was recently expanded, and since the entire area surrounding the battlefield is considered a "protected" site, they chose to build the entire museum underground. Which is kinda neat.
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>> No. 103828 ID: 4d69b8
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>> No. 103829 ID: 4d69b8
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AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR BRITISH 2ND MODEL SHORT LAND BROWN BESS FLINTLOCK MUSKET PATTERN 1769/1777
$ 6,950.00
An Antique Revolutionary War British 2nd Model Short Land Brown Bess Military Flintlock Musket pattern 1769/1777. 41.75",. 80 cal. barrel with remnants of standard PROOFS struck on the top of breech. Standard pattern brass regulation furniture. Long Land pattern 1756 lock in good mechanical working order. Stock is solid with an old repair around the lock and side plate; some chip loses from the upper edges of fore-end; brass nose cap is missing; worn, scratches and dings from years of service. Visible 'STORES KEEPER' mark on the right side of the comb of stock. The steel ram rod is most likely an American made hand forged replacement. Musket comes with the correct bayonet.

Note; this is one of the primary weapons used in the American Revolutionary War. These muskets are becoming harder and harder to find in any condition ! https://tortugatrading.com/products/american-revolutionary-war-british-2nd-model-short-land-brown-bess-flintlock-musket-pattern-1769-1777
>> No. 103835 ID: 813f6b
>>103824
>An unrifled Baker??? That defeats the purpose of having a Baker!

I guess people might use it as a wall hanger. ;)
>> No. 103888 ID: 9315da
>>103791
>>The lion is a dutch one
>> It is facing Paris, reminding it not to try that shit again.

That's cool. Didn't know there was a large museum dedicated to the battle. Just one more thing I'd like to see someday.
>> No. 104021 ID: 9dcda2
>>103744
Good shit dude.


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102722 No. 102722 ID: 1519ac hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Last 50 posts]
Hey WarPlanRed, could you post some pictures of your lr-300esque build? Specifically the gas key, recoil spring setup, and bolt carrier? I stupidly didn't save them when you first posted them. Thanks bro.
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>> No. 103803 ID: f11f4d
>>103801
Interesting, according to this http://hybris.cms.henkel.com/medias/sys_master/root/h40/h15/9112834539550.pdf it should have been fine to use on aluminum (despite the basic pH of 10.6)
If you have any bits of aluminum left from the project and are still curious, you might try giving them a test in the cleaner, with and without the cleaner/degreaser.
>> No. 103804 ID: 19518e
>>103803
The cleaner in there was diluted, and possibly had contaminants from the day shift that could have tainted the part. It could have been the heating function, but it doesn't get anywhere boiling...

Either way I'm not too concerned, mostly curious.
>> No. 103843 ID: 3a8aee
>>103804
you could always make a test piece (a machined block or something with a similar surface finish to the part that changed colour) and leave it the cleaner extra long to see what happens. Consider it a "worst case scenario" test or do it just for giggles.
>> No. 103845 ID: f11f4d
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>>103802
Ah, didn't see the picture before I posted. Yeah, that's not nearly as bad as I thought. I was expecting something more along the lines of what happens when cheap dyes are used to color aluminum, that then proceed to leach out from bad sealing or break down under UV light. Pic related. Which was confusing the hell out of me because your piece wasn't dyed.

I think your contaminants theory is likely correct, as anodizing is great at picking that sort of thing up.
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First block is control, second is 1 hour in left-over contaminated day shift natural blue cleaner (unknown concentration), third is 1 hour in fresh 10% natural blue, last is 1 hour in tap water.

I think it might be the water. The tap water at work isn't fit for drinking, we have water coolers and bottled water for drinking, it usually smells and I don't know what's in it exactly. Could sulfur stain aluminum? There is sometimes a rotten egg smell from the tap water.

Monday I might use bottled water and run another block one more hour. All other variables were kept pretty steady, same temp on the machine, blocks were in the same spot too.


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  For a modest price of 7500$ you too can see the legend come back to life!
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>> No. 103740 ID: bec165
>>103731

I felt insulted when their hits at 100m seem like some unobtainable achievement. I mean, I guess the RMR on my Roland could be considered cheating, but it really isn't that big of a deal to get hits on steel at 100m, with some practice and understanding of your sight picture at that distance of course.

I was about to close the video when I saw Rob Pincus, I closed it when I saw "hydrostatic shock".

If SVI can make a 100% barstock billet 1911 or 2011 for less money than this with the same accuracy guarantee, wtf are they doing?

Yes, for $7500 you could have a grade 9 titanium 1911 made (with microwelded tool steel rails to eliminate galling) that generally will shoot .5" groups or better with AET rifling.

Or hell, you could start a Korth collection, or two SVIs, or multiple forged in the halls of Mount Doom custom 1911s that I promise you have better attention to detail and craftsmanship than this does.

Btw, Les Baers are rather well priced (bit above some of the better production guns like the Colt Rail Gun, Springfield TRP, Dan Wesson Valor).
>> No. 103741 ID: 19518e
>>103740
All those guns you mentioned are things that are already proven, all the plans and tooling are already done, to quote the post you linked to
"...riding a hundred year wave of Browning's legacy. 1911s are understood in every way"

All those manufacturers just have to make what is already made and do it with attention to detail and closer fits. It's like doing a cover of a song when everybody and their mothers have the music sheets and the instruments, SVI/les baer/everygucci1911brand just comes in, picks up the guitars and microphone, and plays the same old song.

The accuracy ends up being the same, but FK has to write a new song from scratch, that's the actually complicated and expensive part.

Yes their marketing is annoying as hell and going "wow we're amazing hitting stuff 100 yards nevah been dun befoh muh hydroquantumshox see we can use buzzwords too".
>> No. 103742 ID: 1989a8
>>103741
Doesn't hydrostatic shock become relevant when the projectile goes above 2000 fps? FK only has 2000 fps at the muzzle though. On the other hand, it dropped an elk without vertebra damage which is very impressive if it wasn't staged.
>> No. 103743 ID: 19518e
>>103742
I'm no terminal ballistician, but from what I understand "hydrostatic shock" is damage to some types of tissues and/or organs from a large enough temporary cavity caused by a projectile. The size of the temporary cavity is related to the projectile's weight, diameter, speed, upset (tumbling), expansion or fragmentation. This temporary cavity, if large and violent enough, can increase the trauma and physiological shock to the target beyond the permanent cavity. I remember reading theories of nervous system damage from this temporary cavity effect, but I can't say I know if it was speculation or confirmed by legitimate scientific process. I do imagine, all else being equal, a larger temporary cavity would probably hurt more but pain is an extremely unreliable factor in incapacitation of a creature at best.

12 gauge slugs are very large, heavy, made of soft lead, and from what I know, can create very large temporary cavities regardless of the relatively slow velocity (well under 2000ft/s) of the projectile. Conversely, the 223 with a proper bullet can also impart devastating damage beyond what one would expect from a small projectile.

In the case of most handguns, there is neither weight or speed sufficient to do anything but look impressive in a gel test. Gel and high-speed cameras can make basically anything look like the new wonderbullet is like a high explosive autocannon round. From Fackler's reports, yes the general speed required to have enough energy to make temporary cavity matter is around 2000ft/s, but bullet weight and construction (expansion, tumbling, fragmentation) are important factors in this rule of thumb.

Hunters have been taking large game with smaller calibers for a long time, with a bullet that can go deep enough, I would imagine that countless medium-to-large animals have been taken with lever actions in modest chamberings assuming shot placement was good. Hunting is often anecdotal and very case-by-case, the animal's reaction to being shot can never really be predicted with perfect accuracy. Maybe they shot a dozen game before landing on the one elk that just gave up after getting a hole poked in it. There's a video of some guys shooting a small doe with a 50BMG and it taking a football-sized scoop right out the exit side, and the doe still ran for a few seconds. There's plenty of videos of hunters sack-of-potatoes-drop on larger animals with a whole lot less than the 50BMG, like 357 Magnums.

The 7.5 round is basically a 30 carbine round (as if shot from a long barrel) from a pistol barrel. Whatever you can kill with an M1 carbine, you could do with the 7.5 from the pistol.
>> No. 103747 ID: 1989a8
>>103743
I'm just saying that an aproximately 100 grain bullet goes into the target at supersonic speeds so their claims of effective hydrostatic damage may not be a just marketing meme. No amout of accurate or meme marketing claims justifies that fucking price tho. Would be interesting to see if they make any actual military AP ammo for it and how will it look if they do.


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103708 No. 103708 ID: e9af5c hide watch expand quickreply [Reply]
Does anyone know of a double rifle chambered in 454 casull that accepts 45 colt and .410?
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>> No. 103713 ID: 4d69b8
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>> No. 103714 ID: 4d69b8
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7 shot Raging Judge .410 Speed Loader is made from solid billet aluminum looks quite nice.
https://www.5starfirearms.com/7RJ-410-Speed-Loader-p/tf41007000.htm
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6 shot Raging Judge .454 Speed Loader
http://www.5starfirearms.com/6RJ-454-Speed-Loader-p/tf45406000.htm
>> No. 103717 ID: e9af5c
>>103710

I've seen those, but a double rifle that has usage for big and small game would just be handy. Pedersolli (I think that's how you spell it) has a new production double barrel 45 long colt with chambers long enough for .410, all in a pistol format. A stock with 454 and longer barrel could really suit my needs (wants).
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>>103709
And here's one by Pedersoli.
https://www.davide-pedersoli.com/tipologia-prodotti.asp/l_en/idt_61/rifles-kodiak-mark-iv.html


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103685 No. 103685 ID: 2a93dd hide watch quickreply [Reply]
http://soldiersystems.net/2017/05/05/details-on-the-ussocom-sponsored-keymod-vs-m-lok-test-conducted-at-nswc-crane
>> No. 103690 ID: 13f512
told.
>> No. 103701 ID: 9dcda2
  >>103685
The moment I saw KDG's Kinect system, I knew M-LOK was the winner.


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