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2627 No. 2627 ID: c3e704 watch
Hey fit, You are the closes to a health board, so I hope you don't mind this odd question. Maybe it will pertain to your interests.

Whenever I have a nap, or even sleep for the night I NEVER wake up refreshed and alert... I am groggy, weak and even more tired than when I first went to sleep.

I get on average 8-9 hours of sleep a night.

Is there something wrong with me?
No. 2629 ID: ca21bd
Maybe, you may just be oversleeping or it could be something else try sleeping less and see how that treats you, you could also try a caffeine nap take a caffeine pill then immediately lay down and take a nap after about 30-45 minutes you should wake up quite refreshed, just don't get addicted.
No. 2630 ID: 9ef9c1
You're WAY oversleeping. I was doing that for a few months. Couldn't sleep less than 10 hours most nights. Cut it back to 7 and MAKE yourself get up. Set multiple alarms, have people call you and make sure you're up.

You'll feel like crap for a bit, but not any worse than you do now. Then you'll feel great.
No. 2642 ID: 8a2041
>>2630

this,force yourself to wake up from a sleep.

it is hard to do it the first few times and feel absolutely like shit when you did that,but eventually you will get used to it.I did something similar back then,now i automatically wake up at 6am everyday with little problems,usually 10-20 minutes earlier than my alarm,and i don't feel like getting back to sleep after that.
No. 2646 ID: b0e0f7
i combat fatigue with espresso.
No. 2649 ID: 5d3702
OP, these other guys are full of shit.

8-9 hours a night is healthy and normal. Particularly if you're in school for anything you actually want to learn. Information retention rates and task oriented manual dexterity DEGRADE by about 6.5% ever REM cycle you miss below 9 hours. Cut out two hours, miss about 2 REM cycles, and suddenly you're losing 13% of information you've read or manual skills you've trained on.
No. 2650 ID: 82373b
fatigue from exercise or stress

try sleeping in for another hour or two one day and see if it helps
No. 2652 ID: c3e704
Hey guys, all this actually makes sense, pertaining to me. Thanks a lot.
No. 2662 ID: 3885be
I don't even have a set sleeping pattern, I rotate a little more each day.

And yes, I am unemployed.
No. 2841 ID: 6f500c
If i sleep less than nine hours a day, I feel like I have the 'flu. My sleeping cycle is terrible: fall asleep at 0400, 0500, 0600, 0800 in a cycle before some committment means I cannot sleep late. this then resets my body clock - but only if i go to bed before 21:00. If I go beyond this time, then I cannot sleep, even if exhausted, until the very early morning. The process then repeats itself. The only time I manage to semi-cotrol this was when I was working out. I am trying to start a work-out regime since January, but have failed to do so. Its my only real hope at gaining any degree of control over my sleeping habits.

Also, the quantity of sleep needed seems to be genetic in my case: my mother, 2 sisters and brother all need at least nine hours sleep, otherwise they feel like shit.
No. 2845 ID: 485fe3
Make sure you have a rhythm.

Even if you get the necessary amount of sleep, without a regular cycle you will get pretty fucked up.

Good sleep does very little if it is irregular, it's like eating. Regular adequate meals, regular adequate sleep. Starving for a day and binge eating the next will fuck you up, and so will all-nighters and binge sleeping.

tldr: sleep regular, sleep adequate. None of this "hurr durr sleep less high speed low drag" bullshit.
No. 2866 ID: 177c65
>>2627

If you can manage it, try waking up without the use of an alarm. It helps to realize that a sleeping pattern is essentially an oscillating wave measuring brain activity; because of this, it helps to wake up from a period of higher brain activity, a natural peak on the "brain activity" wave. (sorry; I couldn't find any decent graphics, but I do recall one from high school that was very good. Shame I can't find it.)

More sleep is not necessarily better. It's quality over quantity...sort of. REM sleep is important. Coincidentally, REM (Rapid Eye Movement) sleep occurs at higher levels of brain activity. If you have a lot of dreams, chances are you managed to get a lot of REM sleep. The more REM sleep you get, the better. The drawback is that, because sleep is cyclical, you can lose a lot of hours of sleep in NREM sleep (non-REM).

The long and the short: more sleep is not better. More REM sleep is. If you can manage naps somewhere in your day (more likely to enter REM sleep) and sleep shorter hours at night, that should help.
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